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Xenomortis · Oct 10, 2010, 06:43 PM // 18:43

The primary means for obtaining ZKeys (apart from buying them) is by obtaining Balthazar Faction. Gold Z Coins are fairly inefficient for this purpose (and is the only PvE means to develop this title).
Kurzick/Luxon allegiance though can be be obtained through PvE much more rapidly than PvP.
I'd say the Zaishen title is much more a PvP title than the Lux/Kurz one.

Divine Ashes · Oct 10, 2010, 08:27 PM // 20:27

Oops, my mistake. I figured Kurz/Lux would be PvP and ZRank wouldn't, since you can just buy it... I must've gotten my PvP trophy from ZRank.

krazyxazn · Oct 10, 2010, 09:59 PM // 21:59

Thanks this will def help me out. I'm currently at 3/50, waiting for my copy of Eye of the North to get here. Then I will be roughly 6/50 when I add in my mini pets.

Champen · Oct 10, 2010, 10:18 PM // 22:18

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Originally Posted by Xenomortis

The primary means for obtaining ZKeys (apart from buying them) is by obtaining Balthazar Faction. Gold Z Coins are fairly inefficient for this purpose (and is the only PvE means to develop this title).
Kurzick/Luxon allegiance though can be be obtained through PvE much more rapidly than PvP.
I'd say the Zaishen title is much more a PvP title than the Lux/Kurz one.

Or you could just buy the keys for all the ectos that you farmed in uw.

NerfHerder · Oct 11, 2010, 02:45 AM // 02:45

Good post Skye. I couldnt have said it better myself. I want to emphasize the importance of DoA, WiK, Monument of Valor(Weapons), and Monument of Resilience(Armor). Especially to those players that have not done these yet.

DoA is profitable, gives you one of the weapons you need, earns you a statue, helps max your lightbringer title, and gets you primeval armor remnants to dedicate heros. SC groups are fairly easy to find and even if you chip in for cons you still make a profit at the end. And, if you like DoA, armbraces can be sold for ectos to use to buy OB armor.

Yes, WiK is a long process. However by the end, you can purchase 2-3 weapons per character, and you end up making a decent profit just from the quest rewards and drops. Once your done, strategically choosing which bounties to do means War Supplies(ie weapons) with minimal effort. Amalek the Unmerciful, Calamitous, and Greves the Overbearing are easy to get to and can be done in HM for quick War Supplies.

When choosing weapons, if you dont care about the skin and just want to fill your hall. Consider destroyer weapons as they are cheap to make. At todays rate, 1 oppessor weapon could buy 2 destroyer weapons. And, selling one armbrace could pay for almost 8 destroyer weapons.

Making armor is going to be one of the costliest parts of filling your hall. I recommend Asuran, Monument, and Norn Armor. They are fairly cheap and require lvl 5 in thier specific rank.

The EotN ranks are important because they can add another statue when maxed and add power to PvE skills. Keep a look out for special EotN/Vanquish weekends and Zaishen quests to make this process go faster.

Keep in mind that these rewards are account wide. So when dedicating weapons make sure you dedicate it on a character that can actually use it. When buying armor, try to buy an armor on one of your characters were you actually like the look.

AngelWJedi · Oct 11, 2010, 02:45 AM // 02:45

i tried the thing using my main's name. im 47/50. i only need 50 minis and i think im 30-40 now. also need more weapons im at the second to last on that line and i need obi armor. grr for the obi armor. only good obi armors i like are for rt and messie but to spend that much for one more point is rather silly.

aspi · Oct 11, 2010, 06:07 AM // 06:07

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Originally Posted by Washi

How are urgoz, deep, mallyx "easy"? I have 47/50 and I dont have those and I dunno how to do them without a good guild.

If you join a guild you will see how easy Deep is when people know what they are doing.

FengShuiDove · Oct 11, 2010, 02:12 PM // 14:12

The elite missions might not be the most easy thing in the world, but if you get a good group it's half an hour up to 2 hours for easy points. Plus, if you haven't done them, you should, cause they're a lot of fun

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P.S. One of my PvP titles is Commander. lulz.

Iuris · Oct 11, 2010, 03:10 PM // 15:10

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If you join a guild you will see how easy Deep is when people know what they are doing.

No, it's not easy. Even with an experienced group that is just not specialized in it, the Deep is still at the very least challenging.

Really, people who have played for thousands of hours seem to forget that not everyone is that dedicated, experienced and plays that well.

They also forget just how much time things take to do the first time.

Skye Marin · Oct 11, 2010, 04:25 PM // 16:25

If you're looking at time investment, reading up on the wiki and beating The Deep is likely "easier" than vanqing a continent, or even getting protector.

Carboplatin · Oct 11, 2010, 04:52 PM // 16:52

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Originally Posted by Iuris

No, it's not easy. Even with an experienced group that is just not specialized in it, the Deep is still at the very least challenging.

Really, people who have played for thousands of hours seem to forget that not everyone is that dedicated, experienced and plays that well.

They also forget just how much time things take to do the first time.

It really isn't that hard at all. Its very doable with heros in 30min.

fireflyry · Oct 11, 2010, 04:57 PM // 16:57

This should get sticked somewhere.

Nicely done OP.

KingCrab · Oct 12, 2010, 12:00 AM // 00:00

"Buy one Gold Mini Pet (~10-20k) "

Is this really realistic? All the gold and green minipets seem to cost a fortune since the HoM rewards were announced.

KingCrab · Oct 12, 2010, 12:01 AM // 00:01

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Originally Posted by Carboplatin

It really isn't that hard at all. Its very doable with heros in 30min.

Two people each with heroes or one person with just three heroes? I haven't tried the deep yet, but I believe it's one of those no henchmen areas.

Adul · Oct 12, 2010, 12:02 AM // 00:02

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Originally Posted by KingCrab

"Buy one Gold Mini Pet (~10-20k) "

Is this really realistic? All the gold and green minipets seem to cost a fortune since the HoM rewards were announced.

Oh I'm sure prices will return close to their pre-Hom-calc state in a couple of weeks or possibly months.

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Originally Posted by KingCrab

Two people each with heroes or one person with just three heroes? I haven't tried the deep yet, but I believe it's one of those no henchmen areas.

It is, and in order to fill the 12 slots you need at least 3 players. The Deep is quite doable on normal if you are well prepared, but Urgoz is a bit tricky, especially at the end where you need to move around a lot. Human brain helps there.

NerfHerder · Oct 12, 2010, 02:48 AM // 02:48

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Originally Posted by KingCrab

"Buy one Gold Mini Pet (~10-20k) "

Is this really realistic? All the gold and green minipets seem to cost a fortune since the HoM rewards were announced.

I dont see minipets going down in price anytime soon. Except for the black moa chick, you cant farm them, and most of them you can only get through B-day gifts. That means alot less minis are undedicated because everyone is filling thier halls. So at the earliest it will be a few months before we start getting a new batch of minis to buy. Even then people will charge more than they use to be. But, I hope I'm wrong about this.

Lensor · Oct 12, 2010, 09:06 AM // 09:06

Or you just wait for Canthan New Year for the free celestial golden mini. It is not like GW2 will release before February.

KingCrab · Oct 13, 2010, 04:51 AM // 04:51

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Originally Posted by Lensor

Or you just wait for Canthan New Year for the free celestial golden mini. It is not like GW2 will release before February.

Wait, we all get a free gold mini then?

jazilla · Oct 13, 2010, 05:03 AM // 05:03

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Originally Posted by Lensor

Or you just wait for Canthan New Year for the free celestial golden mini. It is not like GW2 will release before February.

true on both accounts. anet is showing gw2 demo off at pax east in march meaning it is highly unlikely we will be getting gw2 by then. you can hold on to hope still if you want.

Lensor · Oct 13, 2010, 08:14 AM // 08:14

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Originally Posted by KingCrab

Wait, we all get a free gold mini then?

Well, technically the gold mini is a random drop from "lunar fortunes", which you get from "lunar tokens" which you gather by doing the festival quests.

You can of course get unlucky and get no mini, but if you finish the quests (they are quite easy and fast) on several characters you should be in good shape. The chance per fortune is ~0.5% and each character can gather 50 fortunes just from the quests. So on average 4 characters should give a pet (+ a lot of party items and some gold). Also many guilds will pool up extra minis to give to unlucky members. It really is a high-light of the year